Comments on: Thoughts on Vision

By: Carl

Carl — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:13:51 +0000

Amen. We all want to live lives that give glory to Jesus and not only getting our lives in order but portraying a life connected to God is essential. Thanks for joining the conversation.

By: Dstsauveur

Dstsauveur — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:22:06 +0000

That was really good…. God spoke to me through that.

Surrending your will completly to God. Do people really get that meaning? People may hear God and not like what he said. So to stroke their ego they just make them selves believe God has changed his mind, so they have this false truth , that it wasnt them but God. If we surrender our will entirely . I mean everything. Then when you do hear God, you remind your self that he has you in mind. Then faith and trust kicks in . People wont be afraid or even get lazy to follow through because they know that God wants good for those who love him and called all of us to live a life more abundtly. So for me , its laying down my being, all of my mind and plans and thoughts. So i dont get mixed up in fanatasy but get caught up in A pure mature bibical vision for my life.

P.S. If it doesnt line up with the word or nature Of Christ he propbly never said it.

By: Carl

Carl — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:09:32 +0000

To me, the key phrase regarding fantasy (if I may quote myself) is that “God never spoke it.”

You have to check a person’s fruit. Do they have a history of follow through? Or does “God” send them into a new direction every other week?

God does miraculous things through really messed up people. But He is never confused about what it is He wants to do. God does not change His mind about a person’s mate once a month. He does not get confused about which continent He is going to make someone famous.

Just some thoughts

By: Nathan Griffis

Nathan Griffis — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:36:06 +0000

Thanks to technology and recording devices it makes it a whole lot easier for people to hold you accountable for those “visionary” moments. I laid some out as a part of our state of the church address and really some of them sound a little like a fantasy. It is certainly one of those time will tell things but the one piece that is often time ommitted is that you have to do some of the work involved. Vision can mean getting your hands dirty. It also means getting other people to buy in and be willing to get to work with you. (Much easier said than done)

Another issue is that we take the scripture that “God will give you the desires of your heart” and claim our desires as vision. We have a tendancy to emphasize the 2nd half of that verse instead of the first half. When you submit your self to God, His desires become your desires, His passions become your passions, His vision becomes your vision…

By: Highlights From 2008 | Carl Thomas dot net

Highlights From 2008 | Carl Thomas dot net — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:15:28 +0000

[...] I talked to Sergio about a year and a half ago about a new sound of worship. It was just a vision. God was leading Sergio in the same direction. Check this out. This is live, not a studio, [...]

By: Carl

Carl — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:30:23 +0000

I wish it ended in youth group. Folks go through life with no greater depth of knowledge than they got in high school.

thanks for reading.

By: holy ridaz

holy ridaz — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:17:09 +0000

You pretty much nailed it, had me flashing back to my youth pastor days and some of meetings. Thanks for sharing this.

Peace